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Now then, with any luck, the few of us out here that want to exchange thoughts and ideas can do so without sophomoric interjection. If you have any POSITIVE feedback regarding bass fishing, please feel free to post them to this area.


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I'm sorry Mac. If you really want to talk eastern fish, pick something worthy like walleye. I mean bass, geesh, can it BE more American.

But I will humour you. I am not into bass fishing out here, not natural but I have some stories of back home where the smallies were as thick as the evening skitters.

There is nothing more fun that fishing buzzbaits for topwater bass and pike. Boy is that exciting, I mean they just explode to the bait. And everytime you cast out and retrieve, you have this anticipation that is seldom parallelled. I enjoyed many a scalding afternoon, missionaried out on my deck boat trying to entice fifty smallies of various sizes to bite a leech. Of course, ten or so would come over to take a look at it, then they would look at me and seemingly laugh, damn insolent bastards.

Seeya


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Hey, I am gung-ho when it comes to Walleye as well! Back in the Prairies, we used to catch them all the time...they are, without a doubt, the BEST tasting fresh-water fish on the planet!
I am not strictly a "BASS" fisherman, although previous posts might suggest otherwise. The only point I have ever tried to get across is to diversify! Surely you have seen the crowds along the Vedder/Fraser...how can anybody do that and consider it "leisure"?
Then again, the salmon-eaters are their own worst enemies. If they would realize that between the Commercial Fisheries and the Natives, the DFO is NOT going to give them much to work with!
In the meantime, I will be driving PAST the Vedder, PAST the Fraser...right out of this Region to do any fishing. These guys can have their salmon, they can KEEP their salmon...I don't want anything to do with either.


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Hey marc remember m, I'm the guy that got all this hoopla started in the first place. Anyway I hope that if people don't have anything positive to say then to but out. But unlike you I am a born and bred west coaster and I slowly gravitated toward bass fishing through the help of TNN and Henry and Italo (assholes) I fished saltwater for salmon on dozens of occasions and couhgt fish but didn't enjoy the trolling around for hours waiting for something to happen breathing in gas and exhaust fumes. Then I went to do the whole river fishing thing and that just sucks fishing a 30ft stretch of water with 50 guys casting at fish we can all see in the water that sucked too, so thats when I moved to bass fishing I watched all the shows from when I was fifteen on and over the last ten years all the fishing I do is for bass it is tough cause I live in Vancouver but I do make out to the Okanagan or to Saltspring a couple of times a year to Washington state and to Mill in Abbotsford. I wish there was somewhere else to go
I've heard about Hatzic out in pit meadows and the area but I don't know how good of a population of BAss there are out there, Any Info would help.
I'm planning a trip for the weekend before may long weekend when you can still get offseason motel rates for either Saltspring or Vancouver Island anyway if you don't like BAss or aren't ready to broaden your horizons then don't leave anything negative here, remember, VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE, PEACE!


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Amen to THAT, Bassfreak!
I couldn't have said it better (although I have tried). I too, fished the Vedder for MANY years and just got plain sick and tired by the attitudes of the general populace. As I said before, I fish to relax! NOT to set records, or for bragging rights. When I was growing up (in the Prairies) we used to go bass fishing "a-lot", but didn't know that they were Bass at the time! It wasn't till an older local fellow identified them...nonetheless, we would have a riot catching and releasing them...Boy! Could they fight!
Hatzic Lake DOES have some bass in it...there's just a question of where to launch a boat! Last time I was there, they wanted to charge me five bucks to launch....FIVE bucks for access to a Public lake? Whatever!
I STILL don't know where this Wamsley lake is supposedly located...any idea?


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So then what do you use?

Generally in June, the smallies go topwater so that's when using buzzbaits and cutplugs are the most fun.

But after the smallies go deep onto the reefs, it is very effective to pull shad raps and spinner baits. Covers water and depth is easily controlled. Then I suppose, once you have found a school or two, position the trolling motor into the wind and start doing a jig. Never jigged for smallies because I was always too intent on catching the next ten pound eye so I don't know much about colours. I found that with walleye fishing, plain jig head in the half ounce weight worked best. Although, pink, chartreuse and white worked well to.

As for buzzbaits, I liked the orange and brown without a stinger hook. I found that no fish would rise to a stinged lure and that I could effectively catch just as many without it.

As for the rest of the people on this board, I had to join in, for it is one of a few things that I know. Fishing for salmon and steelhead requires practice and many hours of stream time, something I have been unable to do. But, for the record I will only fish native species with the exception of walleye, and brookies out here.


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My all-time favourite plug for smallies is the "Bayou-Boogie". It's basically a cut-plug type of sinking crankbait, you control the depth by the speed of your retrieve. I have caught some on the old "rubber-worm" type of setup but don't enjoy that as much. I have yet to try flies or poppers on Bass.
I would also like to try fishing for Brookies although I hear that the closest place is the Skagit. Anything closer?


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Hey Marc I'm not sure where it is either. I'm just going by what a guy at the still-water sports table told me at the outdoor show at the PNE he said it was an old gravel pit in Abby somewhere. He said that it is used primarily for waterskiing. I don't know how old it is and it doesn't show on any of my dozen or so maps.
Have you ever fished Hatzic?
I've fished everywhere but there for bass like I said the OK, the island and WA. state so if you need any info or could expand my knowlwedge feel free!


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Few things. Firstly, I've heard that the fish from that Abootsford lake taste, TERRIBLE! That doesnt't say its not good fishing. But again I've only heard that. I've never been to Hatzic. If you go to Hatzic, another eastern species that lives there are Black Crappies. Scrappy little things, but good for the pan in the mornin.

About the bass going deep in the winter. On some BC lakes, for example Elk Lake, bass fishing in the wintertime is next to impossible. They're deep, in the dark, and practically dead. (Dont move aroudn much.) Its better to just go for trout in those situations.

And about the Vedder switching. Im the exact opposite. I've been smallmouth fishing since I was 4 in Muskoka, Ontario. Im the exact opoosite, I made the transitiuon to salmon fishing as well when I move out west. Oh, and about the bass & american thing? No. Largies maybe, but smallies are definately just as Canadian if not more, than American. (Kind of a northern cousin.)

Anything else than bass is grass!(not really, just sounds good:)

-chris


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Well Chris,
If you've gone full-circle with your fishing experience, I say "good for you!" I appreciate the opinion of someone who has actually tried it before knocking it.
It sounds to me as though YOU know where this lake is located..is this true? I have heard that it is somewhere near the airport, but that doesn't help me much...
I'll be heading out to Abby tomorrow, so if I get a chance, I'll ask around then I'll let you ALL know. Those of you who are interested, take note! Those who are not...go find another discussion!


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what about those new Rapalas,'skitter-pops' or whatever they're called-i should know i have one in my box,bought last year.
anyway my favourite is a jointed plug made by Mirro-Lure http://www.mirrolure.com can't remember the name of it-too much wine with dinner(unlike some of the wimps who post here who have too much 'whine')anyway i find it's the orange belly on them that produces.
of course there's nothing like a Rattlin' Rap,smallest size;even trolled they're dynamite.
fishing those plastic worms never did it for me too slow.
Big-O's by Bagley is another favourite,my brother first told me about them.
i've just started using a lizard or salamander carolina rigged,i like it because i can 'hop' it thru cover and along the shore.


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Thinking back to my "early days", I remember that Heddon had a decent line of Bass plugs as well, specifically the "Heddon-go-deeper". It was dynamite on deep Bass as well as Pike.
Smallies are real suckers for Tube-Jigs too! The beauty of these is that you can rig them so many ways: floating, sinking, neutral. The action is pretty wild when you mount them over a light (up to 1/8 oz) jig head. You drop it into a school, and watch them chase after it as it goes darting and spinning downwards. Guido knew what he was doing when he made those things!


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HEDDON!? boy you must be as old as me!
actually i've found that Hula Poppers don't work as well here as back east.
tube jigs i have in quantity but i've never given them an honest chance,that's a fact.
thanks for giving me something to think about-what about colours?
i just remembered Mr Mean by Cabela's they work like crazy!i've even caught 'salmon' on them,but that's another story.
like many fishermen i own WAY too much gear,some things just don't get a fair tryout.


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I'll give you all a little bass tip for smallies right now. 90% of the time, some sort of a Rapala will produce deadly. Guranteed (well almost, cant really guarnatee anything in fishing.)

Put it this way, if there are bass in the lake, some sort of Rapala, as I said, (depending on water, etc. conditions), will get you a bass.

-chris

PS. I tried downrigging Rapala's new ocean lure once this winter, didn't really go very logn with it, didn't give it a chance really before I had to go back, anybody got any salmon in the ocean with rapalas?


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Cool. Don't know much about bass fishing (caught some, but I don't know why), but I've never met a fish I didn't enjoy catching (I lie - there are some bottom fish out in the chuck that look like a Hollywood special effect). If your discussion continues, I'll learn something.


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Once again, AMEN!
Indeed, I have switched gears on my "attitude" towards unproductive (as I see them) posts, however, I don't think ignoring them will make them go away! Interesting strategy though :)!
My ALL TIME FAVORITE Bassin' spot has got to be the OKanagan. As I said in an earlier post, I used to go to Vaseaux Lake A-LOT (There's an UGLY STIK of mine at the bottom of that Lake but that's another story!), but since the Private Campground closed down, it's nearly impossible to get near the fish! The private campground was the one closest to the house that's built into the side of the Mountain, it was an orchard, but the owner put in a few "rough" campsites in there.
We would row (No PowerBoats allowed) to the other side of the lake and get around the East side of the island, into the bay. When you get near the East shoreline, there's a nice drop-off/channel that runs parallel to the shore and we would see some real MONSTERS swimming through there. I have heard that the BEST spots on that lake, though, are the 2 small Oxbows that are about 1/2 mile further North, still on the East side.
Caught a-lot of smallies on the OK river too, but that was about 12 years ago. Ever since then, it just hasn't been the same...I don't know WHAT happened there!
Favorite tackle? Crankbaits first, then Top Waters (either buzz-baits or stick-baits), then Jigs, and lastly rubber worms. I use the SAME rod as I do for everything (except for FLyFishing, of course): a 5 1/2 foot Ugly Stik, Mitchell 300 series reel (the BEST ever made) and some 8 or 12 lb test line (either Stren or Maxima), although I hope to try some Spider wire this year.
We made it out to Abby today but alas, wifey had to do the COSTCO thing and by the time that was finished, we had to rush back home to pick the kids up from school...I'll keep you posted on the location of that "Lake" as soon as I can find it.
Cheers


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Mac what is the problem on the lake. Is it that you can't acess the shore line due to private property. Land owners don't own the shore line. When you buy lake front property you only own the land to the highest high water line and anything between that and the water is public property.If you can access this without crossing there property thay can't say a thing about it.I know they think they own it, or at least try to make you think they do. I fish between two feeder streams on okanagan Lk. in the fall. I found it best just to walk the shore. The first year I did this I had people come out on there decks and ask me to get off their property. One guy said I'm going to call the cops, I told him to go ahead. He went in and didn't come back out. Probably called his lawyer. That was three years ago,some of them wave now. By law you should be able to walk all the way around a lake. There's a group in Vernon that are trying to get the by-law officers to enforce the law and have any fences or structures taken out. I think the problem is that most of these owners are stinking rich.


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Or they just stink :) Uh-oh, there I go again, incurring some ire!

I realize that any Canadian citizen has the right to access any public body of water, but there's something about traipsing through someone's yard to get there that doesn't sit right with me. There, you see, I DO have some respect for other people's feelings!
I STILL think that the best place to launch would be right beside that new Hotel/Motel thing that's on the North end of the lake. That way, you're close to the island, the oxbows, AND the gateway (I know...there's a distance limit to any sort of gateway, etc.). I once took a drive along the East side of the OK River from OK Falls to within about 1/4 mile from the Lake, then the road just ended....and NOWHERE to turn around! I STILL think that there MUST be some way to get to the road along the East side of the lake....I've SEEN it, damned if I know how to get there!
I want to take my boy Bass-fishing there this year...aside from being a "row-only" Lake, it has A-LOT of Panfish (Punkinseed, Sunfish), PERFECT for kids!


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Have you asked anyone that lives by the Motel. Some people are realy good about it,if you explain your situation. Thay mite want the bass out to. Maybe It's my strikingly good look's but I have had good luck just by asking.One old timer told me go ahead, then we were talking and he offerd me his boat & motor if I wanted to use it. I did'ent though. Iwas just happy to fish his lake. I do not feel bad about using public land. You respect someones feeling even if thay are denying you your rights? Not me MAC I'm getting to old for that.


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Well no, it's not so much a case of me "respecting them even if they are denying my rights", I just have to put myself in THEIR shoes. Would I want someone trudging through MY yard to get somewhere? Not really, when you see what has happened to Public Lands nowadays. Just look at the Tamihi Forestry site and you'll know what I mean. How can people be such PIGS? There is very little HONOR in some people's attitudes nowadays. Besides, if the guy doesn't want me to cross his land...do I REALLY want to leave my truck and stuff there while I am 45 minutes away, on the other side of the lake?
"What happened to my truck?"
"Oh, I don't know...some 'young kids' came by and trashed it while you were fishing...."
It's nice to see though, that some people can be quite hospitable...offering you his boat and such. Those people are worth their weight in gold and I ALWAYS offer them the pick of whatever catch I have. That way, you KNOW you'll be welcome next time...and you'll always have access.
A little kindness goes a LOOOOOONG way!


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So do a few beers. This place I go in the fall is at least 90ft. from there land as the lake is quite low by them. It's the only time you can site fiah these big bows and it only lasts for a couple weeks if your lucky. I park my truck in a public camp ground. That in it self is risky enough now days.



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